tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post3540115795676288888..comments2024-03-22T17:51:15.887-04:00Comments on The Edge of the Precipice: Great Gatsby Read-Along: Chapter VHamlette (Rachel)http://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-60697246269409945142017-08-17T21:52:38.499-04:002017-08-17T21:52:38.499-04:00Thanks, Sarah!
Yeah, the mystery of liver exercis...Thanks, Sarah!<br /><br />Yeah, the mystery of liver exercises now haunts me. I kind of just imagine him doing weird sit-ups, but I'd like to <i>know</i>.<br /><br />You're so right -- Daisy crying over the shirts feels just right emotionally, even if it doesn't make logical sense necessarily.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-67365245053472320772017-08-17T19:36:39.590-04:002017-08-17T19:36:39.590-04:00Great thoughts on this chapter! I can't think ...Great thoughts on this chapter! I can't think of anything to add at all. Agreed that it's an incredibly rich chapter! And I love the humor as well. <br /><br />Haha, that's too bad no one knows what liver exercises are supposed to be! Now that you've mentioned it, I'm really curious!<br /><br />I have no clue about Daisy and the shirts. It's one of those things that makes perfect sense to me, but I can't for the life of me put it into words. Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08901639281043602191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-82175885213712036432017-06-26T17:27:47.347-04:002017-06-26T17:27:47.347-04:00Meredith, yeah -- chapter 5 is pretty amazing :-) ...Meredith, yeah -- chapter 5 is pretty amazing :-) <br /><br />Still no idea what liver exercises are!!!Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-57702673190105782652017-06-23T14:02:29.765-04:002017-06-23T14:02:29.765-04:00I think this is my favorite chapter thus far.
No...I think this is my favorite chapter thus far. <br /><br />Not only was it the first chapter that I found genuinely humorous but it was also the first chapter in which I really started to feel invested in the characters and their stories even in the midst of their terrible decisions. <br /><br />Yes, what *are* liver exercises?! ;) Meredithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03764461173370472669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-82737036784310186182017-06-22T08:37:54.394-04:002017-06-22T08:37:54.394-04:00Fanda, yes, I love the bits of levity in this one....Fanda, yes, I love the bits of levity in this one. They keep it from getting to melodramatic and emotionally overdone, I think.<br /><br />I think that Nick was, at this point in the story, mostly unaware of the sort of business Gatsby was involved in -- he was starting to wonder, after meeting Wolfsheim, but it's Nick with the perspective of knowing the whole story who sees how nearly he missed getting tangled up in something unsavory. Nick at the time probably thought it was going to be investments in something legit? That's my take, anyway -- that it's another sign of his own naivete.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-63731245668092090632017-06-22T08:35:34.462-04:002017-06-22T08:35:34.462-04:00Livia, I'm not questioning Daisy's moral r...Livia, I'm not questioning Daisy's moral right to leave Tom... until she starts meeting with men behind his back. Then she's sinking to his level. Gatsby may not have been planning a "side thing," but by chapter seven, Daisy is coming over to his house in the afternoons... he ends up luring her, intentionally or not, into the same lifestyle we deplore in Tom.<br /><br />Daisy is definitely selfish, and I have little sympathy for her.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-45350618553845516332017-06-20T05:49:54.467-04:002017-06-20T05:49:54.467-04:00Ha! I, too, loved the humor in this chapter. Espec...Ha! I, too, loved the humor in this chapter. Especially when Gatsby was missing when Daisy arrived, but suddenly appeard on the door... really comical! <br /><br />The reunion is full of awkwardness and emotion. And, yes, it's one of my favorite chapter too.<br /><br />Nick's character is revealed slowly along the chapters. When Gatsby offered him a "business" to pay for his arrangement, he said that if the the offer is not too tactlessly, he would have accepted it? Hmm.... Fanda Classiclithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07642429343958941266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-27520505659490225642017-06-19T19:14:10.460-04:002017-06-19T19:14:10.460-04:00I think Daisy has every right to leave Tom after h...I think Daisy has every right to leave Tom after his multiple adulterous affairs. So, I don't think this whole thing is wrong. Gatsby wasn't planning a side thing, I think he wanted Daisy completely, perhaps to marry her. Except that Daisy is a flake and a coward. She loves security and money more than anything. That is why she married Tom and that is why she stays with Tom. All of her reasons are banal and selfish.Livia Rachellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755623391278276925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-35819393708936181222017-06-19T09:57:00.042-04:002017-06-19T09:57:00.042-04:00Dale, yes -- I'm kind of confounded by Daisy m...Dale, yes -- I'm kind of confounded by Daisy myself. She's vain and shallow and not worth Gatsby's worship... but I sometimes suspect she's made herself be that way. Kind of like Gatsby creating himself anew -- I suspect she could have been an intelligent, feeling woman, but she decided it was better to be a beautiful little fool.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-53225011601199612602017-06-17T22:45:54.978-04:002017-06-17T22:45:54.978-04:00I admit that Daisy is difficult for me to pin down...I admit that Daisy is difficult for me to pin down. She is most definitely shallow but on occasions like this when she is crying, I get the impression she understands more than i give her credit for.Dalehttp://www.mirrorwithclouds.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-14819034864503393542017-06-17T20:08:02.613-04:002017-06-17T20:08:02.613-04:00Thanks, Ruth! I took a lot of time and care with ...Thanks, Ruth! I took a lot of time and care with this chapter post, so I'm glad you liked it.<br /><br />I totally agree. Some dreams would be better off remaining unrealized, and Gatsby's is one of them.<br /><br />That's a cool take on Daisy's tears. Like I said above, I've never figured out what she's crying over, exactly -- this sounds very valid, especially for Daisy, who strikes me as superficial and swayed by pretty stuff.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-2484463707960978992017-06-17T20:06:31.365-04:002017-06-17T20:06:31.365-04:00Sue, you're right. Everything is still innoce...Sue, you're right. Everything is still innocent, fairly above-board, and there's a lot of possibility in the air.<br /><br />I like your take on why Daisy is crying, that it's over the "futility in trying to recapture what they had." Very nicely put! I've never come up with my own interpretation of her tears, but I quite like that.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-57367404051425160672017-06-16T13:44:08.937-04:002017-06-16T13:44:08.937-04:00Well, I can think of nothing to add to your post. ...Well, I can think of nothing to add to your post. That was beautiful.<br /><br />This chapter makes me think that Gatsby should have left his dream just that...a dream. <br /><br />I suspect that Daisy was crying b/c she realized what she could have had. She thinks she could have had happiness through Gatsby and (his) material things, as well. ???Ruth @ with freedom and bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15531827758868215023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-67886002616796843052017-06-14T23:07:50.863-04:002017-06-14T23:07:50.863-04:00This is a chapter of innocence, almost. Nothing h...This is a chapter of innocence, almost. Nothing has as yet happened between Gatsby and Daisy. Yes, they've met, again, but almost innocently, at least that's my take. When they go to Gatsby's house, he is giddy and cannot contain himself. He begins showing off for Daisy, and thinks he sees in her reciprocal feelings of joy at their reunion. But when he starts bragging about his shirts and throwing them at Nick and Daisy, she is overwhelmed by his attentions and intentions and suddenly both desperately wants and sees the utter futility in trying to recapture what they had.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00031315052994736770noreply@blogger.com