tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post1127627644901544304..comments2024-03-22T17:51:15.887-04:00Comments on The Edge of the Precipice: S&S Read-Along: Ch. 29 & 30Hamlette (Rachel)http://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-26039927421752992922021-04-17T19:40:01.693-04:002021-04-17T19:40:01.693-04:00Ivy Miranda, devious is exactly the right word.
A...Ivy Miranda, devious is exactly the right word.<br /><br />And yes, Mrs. Jennings is motherly in the best way!Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-60324643593724018732021-04-17T19:39:32.018-04:002021-04-17T19:39:32.018-04:00Roxann, definitely. I don't know that Mariann...Roxann, definitely. I don't know that Marianne would have stated her feelings outright, but they had to have been obvious to him, since they were to literally everyone else.<br /><br />I like how Austen often gives ridiculous characters redeeming qualities. It keeps them from being caricatures.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-46630465336091404812021-04-17T19:38:27.630-04:002021-04-17T19:38:27.630-04:00Livia, that's a good point about Marianne!
An...Livia, that's a good point about Marianne!<br /><br />And I think you're right, Marianne and Mrs. Jennings have a lot in common.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-48607102670671557932021-04-13T18:50:06.177-04:002021-04-13T18:50:06.177-04:001. Does anyone else think that Willoughby has been...1. Does anyone else think that Willoughby has been exceedingly foxy and clever in having managed to never actually tell Marianne he loved her? (At that time, declaring your romantic love to someone was considered the same as a proposal.)<br /><br />- No doubt it. The man has been malicious the entire time. Taking her to his home where they were alone for hours and causing the town to talk and gives no regard and this makes her look. Yet never tells her in that entire time he loves her. He really is devious.<br /><br /><br />2. Do you want to say "hurrah for Mrs. Jennings" too? Or are you more of Marianne's opinion of her?<br /><br />- Mrs. Jennings is the definition of a mother. It's just who she is. I like her a great deal better than Mrs. Bennet.Ivy Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09742281977062799876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-69666118907109230892021-04-13T11:59:33.509-04:002021-04-13T11:59:33.509-04:00Willoughby was awful. He has to know that he was j...Willoughby was awful. He has to know that he was just playing with her, stringing her along, if he never said he loved her. It had to have taken effort on his part, because it is quite likely that Marianne told Willoughby that she loved him.<br /><br />I don't know that I want to say "hurrah for Mrs. Jennings," but her actions in this chapter gave me a great deal of respect for her. For all that she is a bit foolish, she also has a very kind heart and wants all the best for her friends.Roxannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12113176101182411322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-20906775554461323982021-04-12T20:09:58.018-04:002021-04-12T20:09:58.018-04:001. Does anyone else think that Willoughby has bee...1. Does anyone else think that Willoughby has been exceedingly foxy and clever in having managed to never actually tell Marianne he loved her? (At that time, declaring your romantic love to someone was considered the same as a proposal.)<br /> Definitely and it's very honest and perceptive of Marianne to notice and comment on that since she usually only sees in him what she wants to.<br />2. Do you want to say "hurrah for Mrs. Jennings" too? Or are you more of Marianne's opinion of her?<br />I think Elinor has probably the most accurate assessment, grateful for some of the motives, weary of the lack of enough caring to pay attention. I would react like Marianne. When someone is in pain you don't do what you would want you try to do what they would want. Mrs Jennings and Marianne are a bit similar in only seeing things the way they want to see them rather than observation like Elinor and Colonel Brandon.Livia Rachellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02755623391278276925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-23157377035296774432021-04-12T15:16:34.790-04:002021-04-12T15:16:34.790-04:00Skye, that part where she wants to go give Willoug...Skye, that part where she wants to go give Willoughby a tongue-lashing just makes me want to cheer!<br /><br />Yeah, somehow him being so... devious about it all... that just makes his jilting of Marianne that much worse.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-57421961472111541172021-04-12T15:15:53.332-04:002021-04-12T15:15:53.332-04:00Mom, I think so too. I think this is a big clue o...Mom, I think so too. I think this is a big clue of sorts that this is not his first time stringing a girl along. He's had practice.<br /><br />Mrs. Jennings is one of Austen's many examples of a person who is not "polished" or "high society" having real personal worth. I quite love her. Except when she's teasing.Hamlette (Rachel)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11961916847426233995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-298529795836142802021-04-12T14:48:12.186-04:002021-04-12T14:48:12.186-04:00Mrs. Jennings changed my opinion of her with this ...Mrs. Jennings changed my opinion of her with this one. I love how hard she tried to cheer up Marianne and how defensive she was of her too.<br /><br />Willoughby was incredibly clever with the whole thing. Which just makes me feel worse for Marianne. Skye Hofferthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02385765274513034927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5587150608901957801.post-36848383784257193332021-04-11T18:34:14.002-04:002021-04-11T18:34:14.002-04:001. Does anyone else think that Willoughby has bee...1. Does anyone else think that Willoughby has been exceedingly foxy and clever in having managed to never actually tell Marianne he loved her?<br />- Yes! A thousand times yes! He knew all the time that he was stringing her along, and just continued playing with her emotions without actually proclaiming his love for her. What a cad!!!!<br /><br />2. Do you want to say "hurrah for Mrs. Jennings" too? Or are you more of Marianne's opinion of her?<br />- I agree with your assessment that deep down she is a warm person who feels Marianne's hurt deeply. She just has a different way of expressing herself.<br />Beverly Ohlendorfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04948837442022235158noreply@blogger.com